"How can I love enough to wake up and find another day?"
Description
In this episode, Daniel McNeil and Toleen Touq host a conversation with Sherene Seikaly and Ebony Coletu about the joint struggle of Black and Palestinian liberation movements. They discuss the significance of archiving as a practice of love and resilience, the revolutionary power of curiosity, and the importance of political friendship and collective action. The conversation highlights the need for humility and resilience in approaching archives and asking difficult questions. It also explores the transformational power of archives, the shifting nature of archives when they change location, and the role of friendship in political solidarity. The guests discuss the liberation that comes from shredding archives as a form of resistance against control and how archives can be destroyed or repurposed. They also reflect on the importance of joint struggle rather than mere solidarity and the need to challenge and critique each other in political friendships. The conversation ends with a discussion on grief, the immobility of the current moment, and the practice of sustaining oneself and others in the fight for justice.
Chapters
01:27 Archiving as a Practice of Love and Resilience
03:45 The Revolutionary Power of Curiosity
07:04 Political Friendship and Collective Action
13:00 Navigating Complex Historical and Political Contexts
45:42 Shredding Archives: Liberation from Control
47:09 The Shifting Nature of Archives
54:26 Solidarity as Joint Struggle
59:38 Challenging Dominant Narratives
01:13:23 The Power of Creative Works and Music
*The conversation was recorded on Zoom over 3 time zones. We experienced some challenges with the sound quality (especially from 25-28 minutes).
Guests: Sherene Seikaly and Ebony Coletu
Hosts: Daniel McNeil and Toleen Touq
Executive Producer: Daniel McNeil
Producer: Toleen Touq
Associate Producer: Anna Jane McIntyre
Audio Engineer: Chancelor Maracle
Music: Marc Mac presents Visioneers, Ike's Mood I
Artwork: Anna Jane McIntyre
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